In part two of their conversation with historian Guy Walters, Al Murray and James Holland explore how the Second world War is viewed in Britain as the nation’s defining myth. Nationalism and political identity are also key themes of their

TV presenter and radio host Dermot O’Leary joins Al and James to discuss his passion for Second World War history. The Battle of Britain and the Battle of the Atlantic are two of Dermot’s particular interests, along with a fascination

Al Murray explains why Madagascar was briefly the most important battleground in World War Two, while James Holland talks us through the output of Nazi radio. Also, why the Ritz served lobster and fine wine throughout the blitz, and the

James Holland and Al Murray discuss the remarkable story of the Brazilian Expeditionary Force and their contribution to the war effort in Italy. Plus the boys debate the raid on Dieppe and the incompetence of German Intelligence.